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Sunday, February 24, 2019

Comparison of RADIWOW R-108 and TECSUN PL-380

RADIWOW R-108とTECSUN PL-380の比較
Сравнение RADIWOW R-108 и TECSUN PL380


   I conducted a comparison of RADIWOW R-108 and PL-380 in terms of RSSI and SN ratio of both receivers. My test results are as follows. If I were allowed to criticise  RADIWOW R-108, I would say RADIWOW R-180 is still a developing receiver, but it is close to completeness. 

  Я провел сравнение RADIWOW R-108 и PL-380 с точки зрения соотношения RSSI и SN обоих приемников. Мой вывод таков. Если бы мне разрешили критиковать RADIWOW R-108, я бы сказал, что RADIWOW R-180 все еще находится в стадии разработки. (by Google translation for Russian friends)

 RADIWOW R-108とTECSUNのPL-380の受信性能を比較してみました。結果は以下に示すとおりですが、もし、RADIWOW R-108を私が評価してもいいのなら、R-108はまだ発展途上のラジオだと言いたいです。マイナーな問題が解決できればいいラジオになると思うのですが。

ATTENTION
I heard that there are still some individual differences among RADIWOW R-108s. This test was conducted on only my purchased receivers.


注意:今回の評価は、あくまでも私が購入したラジオによるものです。RADIWOW R-108には個体差があるように聞いています。

1. General feature

  RADIWOW R-108 is smaller than TECSUN PL-380, and I like RADIWOW R-108 has a small tuning dial at the right side of the receiver. Tuning feeling is much better than that of TECSUN PL-380.  I prefer the external antenna input employed to RADIWOW R-108 too. Two anti-slip rubber at the bottom of RADIWOW R-108 is excellent.  I also want to tell you that RADIWOW R-108 can receive AIR band.

RADIWOW R-108は、TECSUN PL-380よりも小型です。RADIWOW R-108のチューニングダイヤルはいいですね。チューニングフィーリングも良く、TECSUN PL-380より快適にダイヤルチューニングできます。またR-108には外部アンテナ入力が付いているのもいいですね。R-108の底についているゴムの滑り止めもなかなか良いです。R-108にはAIRバンド受信機能も付いています。

Photo 1. RADIWOW R-108  and TECSUN PL-380

Photo 2. Side panel and bottom of RADIWOW R-108
You can see the external ANT input.


2. FM Reception

  Both receivers work well, and I don't feel any significant difference between them. Even though the audio at the high-frequency range above around 10kHz of TECSUN PL-380 is slightly better than that of RADIWOW R-108, the sound from the speaker of RADIWOW R-108 is easy to listen. You can choose RADIWOW R-108 as your companion of FM reception during your trips.
 
どちらの受信機も良く受信します。特に大きな違いは無いように感じます。TECSUN PL-380の音の方が、10kHz程から上のオーディオレンジで、RADIWOW R-108より若干良くなっていますが、スピーカーから出る音は、RADIWOW R-108のほうが聞きやすいです。旅行先でのFM局の受信にRADIWOW R-108を使うのは「あり」だと思います。

   The comparison of pink-noise sounds between RADIWOW R-108 and TECSUN PL-380 (The 6-second audio from the beginning is from RADIWOW R-108 and the latter is from TECSUN PL-380. You can notice that TECSUN PL-308 has better high-audio range than RADIWOW R-108. )

FMのピンクノイズを両者で比較してみました。前半6秒がRADIWOW R-108、後半6秒がTECSUN PL-380の音です。前述したとおり、PL-380のほうが、若干高域が向上しているのがわかります。

If you cannot play this audio this is due to google drive policy. Please try it after several days.

もし、再生ができない場合は、しばらく経ってから試してみてください。これはグーグルドライブのポリシーによるものです。

Photo 3. FM reception test at my balcony
(I set each receiver independently.)

Figure 1. Comparison of RSSI of received FM radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)

Figure 1. Comparison of SN ratio of received FM radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)
Photo 4. FM reception test in my room
(I set each receiver independently.)

Figure 3. Comparison of RSSI of received FM radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)

Figure 4. Comparison of SN ratio of received FM radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)

3. SW Reception

  Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to catch many SW radio stations. But I felt something unstable sensitivity of RADIWOW R-108 among SW bands. In terms of SW radio stations that I caught to do the comparison of both receivers, The RSSI of TECSUN PL-380 was always better than that of RADIWOW R-108. When any button is pushed buzz noise occurs during SW reception.
  In terms of speaker sound, the intelligibility of TECSUN R-380 is much better than that of RADIWOW R-108, but the sound of RADIWOW R-108 is better for a long time listening.  If you want to dabble a RADIWOW R-108 for SW listening during your trip, it will be a good choice, but I don't recommend you to use the RADIWOW R-108 for serious SW DXing.

残念ながら、十分な時間がなかっため、沢山の短波放送局を受信することができませんでしたが、感度については、RADIWOW R-108に不安定さを感じました(BAND間で違いがあるように感じました。※15.0MHzのBPM受信)また今回受信による比較では、TECSUN PL-380の方が受信電圧は常に高い状態でした。さらに短波受信中に何かボタンを押すと、ブブブと雑音が出ます。スピーカー音の比較では、了解度はTECSUN PL-380が上ですが、長い時間のリスニングには、RADIWOW R-108の方が良いように思います。もし、旅行先でちょっと短波受信にRADIWOW R-108を使ってみる分には、R-108はいい選択肢になると思いますが、まじめにSW DXingするためのものとしてはお勧めはしません。

  I conducted a test by setting each receiver independently at my 7th-floor balcony. I only used each whip antenna for this test.
Figure 5. Comparison of RSSI of received SW radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)

Figure 6. Comparison of SN ratio of received SW radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)
The SN ratio indication of SW reception seems to be up to 25 dB.
どうやら、短波のSN比の表示上限値は25dBのようです。

4. MW Reception
  Both receivers work well to listen to "local" MW radio stations. There is a significant difference between them in terms of RSSI and SN ratio. However, in terms of receiving weak MW signals with fading, the sound level change of RADIWOW R-108 is very natural compared to TECSUN PL-380. I felt the sound of TECSUN PL-380 for that case is bouncing and fluttering. I don't like the fluttering sound. 
You can choose RADIWOW R-108 as your companion of MW reception during your trips, and it could be worth to modify the R-108 as an ultra-light radio for MW DXing even though there are some minor problems as follows.

どちらの受信機も、中波ローカル局は良く受信してくれます。受信電圧や受信SN比に関して、両者に大きな違いは感じません。しかし、受信レベルが低く、フェーディングが伴う信号の受信においては、RADIWOW R-108の方がTECSUN PL-380と比較して受信音がとても自然です。こういった場合のTECSUN-380の受信音は弾んでいるようなフラッタリングを伴った音になります。私はこの音は好きではないですね。
旅行先の中波局受信にRADIWOW R-108はいい相棒になると思います。また以下に述べるマイナーな問題はありますが、中波DX用のウルトラ・ライトラジオへの改造についてもやってみる価値はあるかと思います。

  Several minor problems observed in "MY" RADIWOW R-108.
私が購入したRADIWOW R-108には、次のマイナーな問題がありました。
  • Strange noise sound syncronizing RSSI indicator like " Tik-Tik"
  • This noise is also be heard in AIR band too.  Please watch the video below.
    チッチッと妙な雑音がRSSIの表示に同期して聴こえます。AIRバンドでも同様。次の動画を見てください。

  • Strange signal attenuation about 10-15 dB after BAND selection 
  • When I push the BAND button and change the band like MW->SW-> AIR-> FM-> LW-> MW, the received signal level is attenuated to 10-15dB. After turning off the R-108 and turning on it, the signal level is recovered.
    バンドボタンを押して、MWからSW、AIR、FM、LW、そして再びMWまで一巡すると、受信レベルが10-15dB程減衰します。電源ボタンの入り切りすると受信レベルは回復します。

Photo 5. MW reception test in my room
(No-interference for RSSI between the two receivers was observed.)

Figure 7. Comparison of RSSI of received MW radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)

Figure 8. Comparison of SN ratio of received MW radio stations
(The maximum value in about 20-seconds observation)
The SN ratio indication of MW reception seems to be up to 25 dB.
どうやら、中波のSN比の表示上限値は25dBのようです。

10 comments:

Retops said...

Very informative review. Many thanks for doing the work.

John VE3IPS said...

Thank you for a very well done review. The issue with the attenuation when making band changes is a problem. I wonder how the design engineer did not test this before manufacturing them.

Fumiaki MINEMATSU said...

Retops-san and John-san, Thank you very much for your kind comments.
It took a long time to complete my test. I hope RADIWOW will improve the current R-108 soon.
Even though there are still problems on MW and SW reception of R-108 I like to use it during my business trips.
I think we should tell Chinese radio manufacturer what kind of compact radio we actually need.
I am an MW DXer so I hope some manufacturer will release small DSP MW radios that aim MW DXing by employing bigger and longer ferrite bar antenna and detection mode of USB/LSB.

O Blaesing said...

Cool report, many thanks!

HRB said...

Thank you for your review and comparison of the two receivers.
Will be interesting to compare my results with yours.
I primarily listen to MW (AM band in U.S.A.)

Thanks again,

Mark said...

Thank you for the great review. I hope the ticking problem has been solved by now. I enjoy my Tecsun PL-380.

Unknown said...

Thanks so much. I recently purchased the Radiwow and it actually is quite impressive.

Anonymous said...

the ticking noise in radiwow r-108 is due to the dsp chip named 4734D5OGU which is not made by Silicon Labs (SILABS), but a Chinese DSP manufacturer probably the XHDATA Company? However trying to apply the 10uF capacitor on the Radiwow R-108's BL5C battery terminal and putting an aluminum foil on the DSP chip/integrated circuit chip or applying the modified silicone conformal coating and nickel conductive plate on the DSP chip/Integrated Circuit chip will likely remove this annoying tick and of course drcouple it to reduce electromagnetic interference.

Anonymous said...

Link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXj7fKoK1lA

Anonymous said...

i mean decouple it to reduce electromagnetic interference.